Businesses say illegal immigrants increase taxes, work hard-to-fill jobs

Staff Report
Published June 4, 2010

More than 56% of Charleston area businesses said that illegal immigration in the U.S. had increased their tax burden.

The perceived effects of illegal immigration (click chart to see full-size) Readers were asked this week to assess their views of how illegal immigration had affected them and their businesses. Of the 129 respondents to the e-mail poll, 56.7% said they were paying higher taxes because of illegal immigration. Nearly 12% said they had lost work to a situation involving illegal immigrants, and 19.7% said they haven’t been affected at all.

The poll question also asked about possible benefits of illegal immigration, such as a low-cost labor force or workers doing jobs that others might not want to do. More than 23% said they benefited from illegal immigration because the workers took hard-to-fill jobs — accounting for the second-highest percentage in the poll, behind higher taxes.

Selected comments from readers on illegal immigration:
“Has benefited me. Prices are lower, and quality of service is higher. A rational immigration and worker-exchange policy in the USA would bring many of these people here legally.”

“Employers use illegal immigrants, pay them very low wages and pay the wages in cash; thus, taxes are not paid to the federal, state and local governments. This occurs on all construction projects except installations where security processing and badges are required.”

“Every state should have laws similar to or tougher than Arizona’s law. Without controling immigration we are giving our country away to terrorist, criminals and takers, not givers to society.”

“All illegals should be deported. Our economy and national security are at stake.”

“This is pure political pandering — as is this ‘survey.’ The bigger issue is this: how can we promote legal immigration instead of making it so difficult? Save for American Indians — and even them — EVERYONE in the US is an immigrant — and you might be surprised that some have illegals in their families a few generations back!”

“Illegals artificially suppress wages for everyone. They fill ‘hard-to-fill’ jobs because the people paying the wages will not pay a fair wage. Those jobs are only hard to fill because the of the wages. This is not capitalism. All these free market capitalist who hire illegals should be in jail. If we all have to pay more for good, services and food because we are forces to pay a fair wage, so be it. That is the primary tenet of capitalism. And that principal should be applicable for the ENTIRE economy.”

“Think about all the crops that would NOT be picked, think about all the landscaping not done, the golf courses not manicured. The prices we would pay because most young ‘Americans’ will NOT do these jobs.”

“Increased the crime level, and I am less secure.”

“Unfortunately, the work ethic demonstrated post world war II (and prior to that) has all but disappeared. At some point in the 1980s, I believe, parents stopped demanding their kids work hard for what they got. They said "yes" to whatever their kids wanted. This sense of entitlement promoted a lack of willingness to work hard, and even assuming no illegals, many jobs would be hard to fill. I have no personal experience, but illegals work harder and appreciate more.”

“A law like that of the recent one in Arizona would be absurd here in SC or anywhere.....unAmerican.”

“Send them back.”

“Not only do they pay no taxes we have to pay to educate the children and probably help house them , it’s a no win for the tax paying people.”

“The wrong questions have been asked here. I spent 3 weeks in Mexico attending business classes and was reminded at least 3 times per day to keep my ‘papers’ on me at all times because Mexican police were ‘unforgiving.’ While I have not yet been impacted in the manner described, I have been impacted indirectly I know of many others who have. I have had to wait for emergency treatment behind illegals that flooded the emergency room and as a taxpayer, know these costs have been passed on to me.
It’s appalling and absolutely ridiculous that Americans are having these discussions. This is ‘political correctness’ gone crazy. We are talking about "illegal" individuals who are crowding our hospitals and schools, driving up insurance and healthcare costs, creating havoc in towns and municipalities in which they reside (crime rate debatable) and taking jobs from more than 11-14 million unemployed legal citizens! We would probably be amazed at the number of jobs that might open up if current U.S. law were enforced barring illegals from employment. Apply the law and they will either go to safe haven states or back with their President!”

“South Carolina’s economy has many, many problems, and illegal immigration is NOT very high on the list. Rhetoric about illegal immigration has a negative impact on those who hire LEGAL immigrants, such as migrant farm workers. Please, please, legislature, give your attention to things that will really help us, such as reforming the tax structure so that there is funding for schools, economic development, infrastructure and other necessities. Don’t waste time on this issue!”

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Comments:

Added: 4 Jun 2010

All states better deal with the issue of illegal aliens or deal with the issue of going bankrupt. I've seen sone of the work crews in SC. They are comprised of mainly illegals. Anyone who signs a contract should ensure that there is a clause in it that says if illegals are working on the project, then the contract is voidable. Taxpayers cannot afford to subsidize illegals from Mexico. Our money should be going to help the poor and unemployed legal residents of this country. The illegals have no allegiance to the US. They refuse to assimilate, they refuse to learn the language, they place their flag above our own, they demonstrate in the streets waving their flag demanding benefits to which they are not entitled, they take jobs sending back part of the money to their home country. Enough is enough. Legal taxpaying citizens of this country need to realize that this is an invasion pure and simple. Yes, we are a country of immigrants, but that's LEGAL immigrants who came to this country, went through the naturalization process, took an oath of allegiance to this country, assimilated, learned the language, etc. Mexican nationals have no right to expect amnesty and citizenship for breaking our laws.

Deb


Added: 4 Jun 2010

I have heard so many comments about working hard and little pay.. this is true to a point but what about the millions that do not work and collect state benefits and are in gangs.. see califorina and arizona... this stereo type of all these illegals just picking veggies has to stop. For every hard working illegal there are also thugs and violent convicts milking the system. I am sorry if you are here illegally you have to go.. If you are honest and looking to better your life come in the right way.. remove the 20 - 30% that are criminals and there would be more room for the hard working looking to better there life and families.

Greg


Added: 4 Jun 2010

I have had to wait at the emergency room more than once while illegals were treated ahead of citizens of the United States. What really disturbs me is that we are paying for every child they have at the hospital. They seem to not have to worry like the rest of us about how they will pay their hospital bills. Also, in my city almost all illegals are on some kind of government help. Food stamps, medicaid, drug assitance , housing assitance. I think americans have finally said enough is enough.

boondog


Added: 4 Jun 2010

If an American was doing the job, would he, she be paying the same taxes? We have 16 million Americans out of work and still businesses want to hire illegal aliens, you know, those who have NO RIGHT to be in this Country. Illegal aliens are destroying this Country, and one would have to be almost blind not to see this. How much longer do we have to support these illegal aliens? How much longer do we have to school their illegal alien children? How much longer are we going to let them have our jobs? How much longer are we going to put up with all the crime, stolen identities, forged documents, fake green cards? How much longer are we going to allow these illegal aliens to send money out of this Country and bring our Country down? Oh, amnesty will correct all this. WRONG! Nothing will change except we wouldn't be able to call them illegal aliens any more. Let's get rid of these illegal aliens! Let's get them back to their own Country where they belong! It's time for ZERO TOLERENCE with these illegal aliens. It's time for them get out of this Country and back in their own Country where they belong. When we get rid of the illegal aliens, we will get rid of all the problems that go with them. THAT IS A FACT!

Delaware Bob


Added: 4 Jun 2010

Gallup poll conducted May 1-2 shows that 9 out of 10 Americans say it is moderately to extremely important to them for the federal government to take steps this year to secure the border against illegal immigration. Similarly, 61 percent of Americans say they are very concerned that illegal immigrants are putting an unfair burden on U.S. schools, hospitals, and government services The majority of US citizens of all origins want the border secured. Over 60% believe that illegal immigration is costing each of us too much money. Yet we are not able to make these determinations about our own country without being called rac*st, white suprem*cists, big*ts, naz*s etc. Many people in this country are suffering right now: small businesses are closing, 10%+ of our nations population is out of work, another 10% are on welfare, the middle class are being crushed by the weight of fiscal responsibility for future and past generations. Our elderly on fixed incomes don't know how they will survive, literally. Our college graduates can't find jobs after incurring horrible debt. Our states are bankrupt. When do Americans get to take care of Americans or are we just not allowed.”

AKansan


Added: 5 Jun 2010

i agree ,i also think that the owners that hire should be arresteed and have their buissness taken from them ,just as if they were a drug dealer. they are breaking the law,if i were to drive without a DL i would go to jail. many illegals get a pat on the back when they are caught and if you don't speak english you should not be here point blank. i was in the ER the other nite and 9 out of 10 could not speak english and expected the nursrs to speak their language,and the one's that could barely speak english were complaining about the wait and praising how fast they would be seen back home. how ungrateful can someone be. and truth be told they ALL HATE US AMERICANS SO PLEASE SEND THEM BACK WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM HERE IN GA TOO.

roxanne davis


Added: 5 Jun 2010

What is the argument here? every single alien "BROKE THE LAW!" Our Government, Republican & Democrat, have allowed the invasion of 30 million criminals and is the largest invasion of any Nation, in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution. This refusal to abide by our Constitution should be classified as Treason as grounds for impeachment & trials for Treason! Not only have they allowed the invasion, they force American tax payers to pay Billions of dollars to provide Welfare, Prison, Educate the invaders children,free medical care, at the same time the invading horde break numerous laws, massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture and standard of living while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens WAKE UP PEOPLE! They walked,rode,swam and drove over here, they can do the same going home! taking thier anchors with them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btj6IeOFkis&feature=player_embedded http://immigrationcounters.com/ http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/

steve


Added: 5 Jun 2010

Some of the commentators here had better wake up and get a clue to what is happening to our nation. Los Angeles is a good place to start. The L.A. Unified School District is the second largest in the nation. IT IS 73% Hispanic, 11% Black, and 9% White... If you do not think our schools are affected you are idiots. It is even worse here in Santa Barbara. The Junior High is over 90% Hispanic and our local hospital has a 70% birth rate from ILLEGAL Hispanics who pay virtually NOTHING... the tab is paid by taxpayers. We are literally birthing and teaching Mexicos citizens and it is WE who pay for it all.

Jimmi J


Added: 5 Jun 2010

Businesses say illegal immigrants increase taxes, work hard-to-fill jobs??? Illegal aliens are destroying this Country, and one would have to be almost blind not to see this. How much longer do we have to support these illegal aliens? How much longer do we have to school their illegal alien children? How much longer are we going to let them have our jobs? How much longer are we going to put up with all the crime, stolen identities, forged documents, fake green cards? How much longer are we going to allow these illegal aliens to send money out of this Country and bring our Country down? Oh, amnesty will correct all this. WRONG! Nothing will change except we wouldn't be able to call them illegal aliens any more. Let's get rid of these illegal aliens! Let's get them back to their own Country where they belong! It's time for ZERO TOLERENCE with these illegal aliens. It's time for them get out of this Country and back in their own Country where they belong. When we get rid of the illegal aliens, we will get rid of all the problems that go with them. THAT IS A FACT!

Delaware Bob


Added: 14 Jul 2010

Everyone needs to do what I did when I wanted to have some work done in my yard. When I called the landscapers, to get estimates, I told them I did not want any illegals working on my property. The one I selected said he did not have any illegals. When he showed up that morning to get started, what came out of his truck, hispanics. I asked him if they were legal, he said they had worked for him for 4 or 5 years, I said " that is not what I asked you" and again asked if they were legal and he said " they have papers", and again I said that is not what I asked you, "are they legal"?. I told him if he could not say they were legal I wanted them all off my property. He finally said, and I quote, " You should not be that way." I told him he should not be that way, hiring illegals. He said a few choice words, was very angry and left my property.

Shirley O'Quinn


Added: 4 Apr 2011

my job has given all of my hours to illegals because they feel sorry for them they say they are doing this because one of them got deported and they want to help get them back here illegally not the right way in the mean time i live with out heat or ac i am getting sick all the time no money for the doctors i do not get any kind of public assistance and have been working for the same place for the last 9 years for minnimun wages i have worked some of the hardest jobs heree in america for less than 2 dollars so dont tell me americans won bullshit maybe when i die the counth will have to pay for my coffin because i dont have any family eithor then i will finally get something from my country i am deffnitly not proud to be an american and dont even feel valued as one

linda lu


Added: 25 Jul 2012

I am an American citizen and work a cleaning job. These illegals steal jobs from me and I am fed up with it. I was born and raised in U.S. and living in poverty with no assistance while I watch all the illegals get everything for free. Please America wake up as they are ALL breaking the law and bankrupting our country. J

jesse anderson